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I would say, I tried to be positive about it. I am not a top-model or big earner, but I was content with what I made on the site in my time here. Then, party chat started, and it was really depressing. I used to get a lot of chatters, which is was always fine by me, because it kept from being boring when I am online. Now, not so. I haven't been on, because of it. 3-4 times being on (in a row), and no shows of any kind, brings a model down, no matter what the cause. I am hoping, that when I do come on tonight, there will be more than just a few crickets in my room. We'll see.
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9/14/10 @ 2:50pm
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I used to get a lot of chatters, which is was always fine by me, because it kept from being boring when I am online. Now, not so...
Not liking it at all. All my favorite models have virtually empty rooms now... ...members expect the girls to give full shows with dildos and cumming for 100 tokens. The rest either beg or lurk.
Sad but true ... and lo and behold if they lose a dime
OMG: The little red 5 minute notice just flashed: but no way a model can be allowed to go PVT, one (and only one) of the "jerk for free or close to free" just tipped 50 credits. We can't have them feeling cheated, whining in the forums, demanding refunds and wasting management's time now, can we?
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Not liking it at all. All my favorite models have virtually empty rooms now... ...members expect the girls to give full shows with dildos and cumming for 100 tokens. The rest either beg or lurk.
Sad but true ... and lo and behold if they lose a dime
OMG: The little red 5 minute notice just flashed: but no way a model can be allowed to go PVT, one (and only one) of the "jerk for free or close to free" just tipped 50 credits. We can't have them feeling cheated, whining in the forums, demanding refunds and wasting management's time now, can we?
Unfortunately, something will always feed a parasite
I for one, will be staying away from Party Chat, unless the members who see me on a regular basis make it worth my while. But to be honest, I would rather just go into Semi-pvt, and not let of the freeloaders get their kicks. Or multi-user at a discounted price.
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I wonder, why the performer and the member above still visit this website, despite that they obviously despise most other members and models.
Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
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Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
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I wonder, why the performer and the member above still visit this website, despite that they obviously despise most other members and models.
Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
Don't believe freeloaders count as members... They are despised, and rightfully so
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Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
Don't believe freeloaders count as members... They are despised, and rightfully so
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Don't believe freeloaders count as members... They are despised, and rightfully so
Most people have a budget to spend on this website.
When they spend $ 60 - $ 120 p. week, they are good members in my opinion.
Does it make them freeloaders when they spend all on 1 day of the week and the other days not?
When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you, but for me its a step too far to call people freeloaders just because they don't pay everyday.
Nobody can pay in every room he visit. Even Bill Gates and Steve Job's couldn't do that.
It's always about lack of budget or lack of time on websites like this.
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I posted this in the other forum but decided to post it here as well:
Have I spent any credits in a party chat? No
Have I done privates since this was implemented? Yes
I think it is a personal decision that each member has to make on their own--do I want to pay for someone to get off on my dime?
My answer to that question was no. If and when I go private I am guaranteed the model's undivided attention and there aren't 50+ people making demands while not tipping.
Each to his own whether it be party chat or private
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Have I spent any credits in a party chat? No
Have I done privates since this was implemented? Yes
I think it is a personal decision that each member has to make on their own--do I want to pay for someone to get off on my dime?
My answer to that question was no. If and when I go private I am guaranteed the model's undivided attention and there aren't 50+ people making demands while not tipping.
Each to his own whether it be party chat or private
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Most people have a budget to spend on this website.
When they spend $ 60 - $ 120 p. week, they are good members in my opinion.
Does it make them freeloaders when they spend all on 1 day of the week and the other days not?
When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you, but for me its a step too far to call people freeloaders just because they don't pay everyday.
Nobody can pay in every room he visit. Even Bill Gates and Steve Job's couldn't do that.
It's always about lack of budget or lack of time on websites like this.
By definition a freeloader spends ZERO dollars. I was not referring to the ACTUAL members who DO indeed spend money, regardless of the amount or their personal budget.
Am I happy to get a 5 minute private? HELL YES!!
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Have I spent any credits in a party chat? Yes
Have I done privates since this was implemented? Yes
I don't mind if other people take advantage of my dime, because i got what i paid for and I have hardly seen that the 50+ people that don't tip make demands at party.
I also like the model's undivided attention in private and for me both types of shows are supplementary.
"Each to his own whether it be party chat or private
" (true)
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By definition a freeloader spends ZERO dollars. I was not referring to the ACTUAL members who DO indeed spend money, regardless of the amount or their personal budget.
Am I happy to get a 5 minute private? HELL YES!!
Yes, but how can you distinguish people who spend zero in your room, from people who spend zero on this website?
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I have a few people I consider freeloaders that have actually spent time with me in the past, but by past I mean over a yr ago. They took me for 3-5min but now all they do is come in and ask for stuff in open, and this has been going on since before party started. Whenever I enter party now here they come. I keep track of people in my party chat and if I see someone just camping out for 15+ min I ban them. One guy came back and asked me why I banned him and I was honest with him, I told him, you're a vip and I've been chatting with you for almost 2yrs, if you're going to come in my party chat, I expect at least a few tips, regardless what the amout is, just show your appreciation somehow otherwise I will ban you. Even if its only 25-50 credits, anything is better than nothing. He apologized and understood where I was coming from. Another vip who comes to the site often sat in my party chat and I asked if he was going to spend time with me finally or tip me and he basically said today was just about him cumming bahahahah. My response was, ok, your choice you can leave now or I'll ban you...he was very quick to leave. I've noticed a few of the same guys that come to my room only when I'm in party, they just sit there, no chatting, no tips. Usually I call them out first and typically they'll leave before I even have to ban them. But honestly, if I'm still having pvts and still getting tips in party I really don't care about them. On a different note, this is a weird time of year, I think Sunday and Monday were very slow here for almost everyone because of football, not because of party chat.
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I have a few people I consider freeloaders that have actually spent time with me in the past, but by past I mean over a yr ago. They took me for 3-5min but now all they do is come in and ask for stuff in open, and this has been going on since before party started. Whenever I enter party now here they come. I keep track of people in my party chat and if I see someone just camping out for 15+ min I ban them. One guy came back and asked me why I banned him and I was honest with him, I told him, you're a vip and I've been chatting with you for almost 2yrs, if you're going to come in my party chat, I expect at least a few tips, regardless what the amout is, just show your appreciation somehow otherwise I will ban you. Even if its only 25-50 credits, anything is better than nothing. He apologized and understood where I was coming from. Another vip who comes to the site often sat in my party chat and I asked if he was going to spend time with me finally or tip me and he basically said today was just about him cumming bahahahah. My response was, ok, your choice you can leave now or I'll ban you...he was very quick to leave. I've noticed a few of the same guys that come to my room only when I'm in party, they just sit there, no chatting, no tips. Usually I call them out first and typically they'll leave before I even have to ban them. But honestly, if I'm still having pvts and still getting tips in party I really don't care about them. On a different note, this is a weird time of year, I think Sunday and Monday were very slow here for almost everyone because of football, not because of party chat.
It's good that models can ban people that visit their partychats everyday just to see nude women without paying.
But from my (customer) POV, i just consider the fun i have in a room.
And i have been in a few party shows, where really something extra was going on: extra interaction, extra fun, just because every tip revealed more and more. It's just the game that i like. I really enjoyed these shows and i didn't think about people who didn't tip.
I like the one on one contact in private, but i also like the special contact between members when they are building up a party chat with their tips.
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It's good that models can ban people that visit their partychats everyday just to see nude women without paying.
But from my (customer) POV, i just consider the fun i have in a room.
And i have been in a few party shows, where really something extra was going on: extra interaction, extra fun, just because every tip revealed more and more. It's just the game that i like. I really enjoyed these shows and i didn't think about people who didn't tip.
I like the one on one contact in private, but i also like the special contact between members when they are building up a party chat with their tips.
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carousel
9/15/10 @ 2:41pm
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Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761
I wonder, why the performer and the member above still visit this website, despite that they obviously despise most other members and models.
Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
You sure jump to unfounded conclusions easily. I wonder who died and made you the self appointed voice of the party chat people?
The sight is just fine with one rather huge exception:
No real member, model, or staff will deny that beggers and free-loaders have been a complete nuisance since day 1 around here. Unfortunately, what may have been a good idea (party chat), has turned into a totally unpleasant situation for many and your single opinion wont change that.
No offense intended to any model, but if you're into a lot of cheap sleaze, then great. I'm glad you're having a good time. Personally I prefer something with a little more mutual feeling and connection. I'd feel cheap as heck to spend 5 minutes in Party Chat and not tip, let alone get off without tipping. And it's good to see that even one of the models who's excelled at Party Chat will ban people for doing it.
When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you...
...Nobody can pay in every room he visit
Say what?
If my budget didn't allow for a decent tip, I wouldnt be there in the first place.
I've wasted enough time with people looking for, and now even 'justifying', a free ride.
It's grossly unfair to any model to get a free show and somehow try to justify you're not a free-loader because you spent all your money on somebody else.
So you go right ahead and try twisting that anyway you want to with your rose colored glasses mr speaker ... It just wont fly.
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Most people leave a place they don't like and search for an alternative, where they can be successfull as a performer resp. happy as a member.
You sure jump to unfounded conclusions easily. I wonder who died and made you the self appointed voice of the party chat people?
The sight is just fine with one rather huge exception:
No real member, model, or staff will deny that beggers and free-loaders have been a complete nuisance since day 1 around here. Unfortunately, what may have been a good idea (party chat), has turned into a totally unpleasant situation for many and your single opinion wont change that.
No offense intended to any model, but if you're into a lot of cheap sleaze, then great. I'm glad you're having a good time. Personally I prefer something with a little more mutual feeling and connection. I'd feel cheap as heck to spend 5 minutes in Party Chat and not tip, let alone get off without tipping. And it's good to see that even one of the models who's excelled at Party Chat will ban people for doing it.
When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you...
...Nobody can pay in every room he visit
Say what?If my budget didn't allow for a decent tip, I wouldnt be there in the first place.
I've wasted enough time with people looking for, and now even 'justifying', a free ride.
It's grossly unfair to any model to get a free show and somehow try to justify you're not a free-loader because you spent all your money on somebody else.
So you go right ahead and try twisting that anyway you want to with your rose colored glasses mr speaker ... It just wont fly.
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You sure jump to unfounded conclusions easily. I wonder who died and made you the self appointed voice of the party chat people?
The sight is just fine with one rather huge exception:
No real member, model, or staff will deny that beggers and free-loaders have been a complete nuisance since day 1 around here. Unfortunately, what may have been a good idea (party chat), has turned into a totally unpleasant situation for many and your single opinion wont change that.
No offense intended to any model, but if you're into a lot of cheap sleaze, then great. I'm glad you're having a good time. Personally I prefer something with a little more mutual feeling and connection. I'd feel cheap as heck to spend 5 minutes in Party Chat and not tip, let alone get off without tipping. And it's good to see that even one of the models who's excelled at Party Chat will ban people for doing it.
When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you...
...Nobody can pay in every room he visit
Say what?
If my budget didn't allow for a decent tip, I wouldnt be there in the first place.
I've wasted enough time with people looking for, and now even 'justifying', a free ride.
It's grossly unfair to any model to get a free show and somehow try to justify you're not a free-loader because you spent all your money on somebody else.
So you go right ahead and try twisting that anyway you want to with your rose colored glasses mr speaker ... It just wont fly.
It's a waste of time to share opinions with people like you (and 1 or 2 others) and i prefer to allocate my rare free moments in a more positive setting.
One tip for you: read the rules for posting below the message window.
Good luck.
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carousel
9/15/10 @ 3:54pm
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Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761
Roflmao ...
twist away ...
justifying free-loading is an opinion
and while ur dishing out rules advise, unless my eyes deceive me, I believe you wrote this
and rightfully deserve the reply you got
I wonder, why the performer and the member above still visit this website, despite that they obviously despise most other members and models.
I'm done here ... dont bother wasting and more of your rare free moments
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twist away ...
justifying free-loading is an opinion
and while ur dishing out rules advise, unless my eyes deceive me, I believe you wrote this
and rightfully deserve the reply you got
I wonder, why the performer and the member above still visit this website, despite that they obviously despise most other members and models.
I'm done here ... dont bother wasting and more of your rare free moments
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brooklynboy718
9/15/10 @ 4:38pm
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Location: yo mama's house
Posts: 34
ummm how about to avoid all the bickering, displeasure and aggravation VS just closes down their websites and we all move on.....would that solve things for everyone???? lol
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ummm how about to avoid all the bickering, displeasure and aggravation VS just closes down their websites and we all move on.....would that solve things for everyone???? lol
It wouldn't affect my life if VS should close their websites.
I really like the spontanous contacts with a few models, i have learned to know.
But i can't say that the sex in a small corner of my screen has ever drove me crazy.
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It wouldn't affect my life if VS should close their websites.
I really like the spontanous contacts with a few models, i have learned to know.
But i can't say that the sex in a small corner of my screen has ever drove me crazy.
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brooklynboy718
9/15/10 @ 5:08pm
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Location: yo mama's house
Posts: 34
so do we start a petition??? have states attorney generals get involved like they did with craigslist?? to party or not to party, that is the issue......lol
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The definition of a "freeloader" from the most reliable source around (urban dictionary) ...
1. A freeloader is someone who exploits chances to get free stuff whenever possible.
2. Someone who sits around and dosen't work and mooches off their family and steals all their moms hard earned money to do nothing all day and contribute shit to society. Someone who is a waste of air and takes up valuable space on the planet earth.
3. Someone who lives off other people's lives. They don't pay for anything and never pay you back.
4. Someone who takes very hight advantage of food, clothing, and other necessities when visiting a friend's house.
5. A worthless, lazy, opportunist bumb who takes advantage of people and thinks they should get everything on a silver platter without earning it. If he has a girlfriend, he probably sits at home all day without a job and mooches money and things off her with the excuse, Ill pay you back later, baby, when things improve. She keeps giving him more money because she is nieve, has low self-esteem and too spineless to stand up to him and kick him out. On the other hand, if the freeloader is a female she is probably a spoiled, stuck-up b***h who lives at home and gets money from mommy and daddy while sitting on the can all day eating Bon Bons and watching soaps.
6. A person who comes by your crib every day. He or she wants you to smoke all of your weed with them, but they never have any weed themselves. They want to drink up all of your beer, but they don't have any money. They try to dictate what music gets played while they're drinking and smoking your shit. When you need a favor from them, they are nowhere to be found (probably freeloading off someone else).
7. Someone who leeches off others while contributing virtually nothing in return. Usually they are unemployed and/or extremely lazy. They are generally easy to identify from the general public due to their constant requests to borrow other people's money, get rides, or even coming to restaurants with a group, then ordering food and never paying for themselves, etc
8. The female in an orgy who takes a load to the chest even though another participant (male or female) did all the work to make said load bust.
I kinda like #'s 5 and 6 myself
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1. A freeloader is someone who exploits chances to get free stuff whenever possible.
2. Someone who sits around and dosen't work and mooches off their family and steals all their moms hard earned money to do nothing all day and contribute shit to society. Someone who is a waste of air and takes up valuable space on the planet earth.
3. Someone who lives off other people's lives. They don't pay for anything and never pay you back.
4. Someone who takes very hight advantage of food, clothing, and other necessities when visiting a friend's house.
5. A worthless, lazy, opportunist bumb who takes advantage of people and thinks they should get everything on a silver platter without earning it. If he has a girlfriend, he probably sits at home all day without a job and mooches money and things off her with the excuse, Ill pay you back later, baby, when things improve. She keeps giving him more money because she is nieve, has low self-esteem and too spineless to stand up to him and kick him out. On the other hand, if the freeloader is a female she is probably a spoiled, stuck-up b***h who lives at home and gets money from mommy and daddy while sitting on the can all day eating Bon Bons and watching soaps.
6. A person who comes by your crib every day. He or she wants you to smoke all of your weed with them, but they never have any weed themselves. They want to drink up all of your beer, but they don't have any money. They try to dictate what music gets played while they're drinking and smoking your shit. When you need a favor from them, they are nowhere to be found (probably freeloading off someone else).
7. Someone who leeches off others while contributing virtually nothing in return. Usually they are unemployed and/or extremely lazy. They are generally easy to identify from the general public due to their constant requests to borrow other people's money, get rides, or even coming to restaurants with a group, then ordering food and never paying for themselves, etc
8. The female in an orgy who takes a load to the chest even though another participant (male or female) did all the work to make said load bust.
I kinda like #'s 5 and 6 myself
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